eye for martyn and don

im sure certain members will still want to talk about eyes George, ive a couple to post up once I get the photo`s.........

rainbow wrote:

so we don't want to talk   about eyes we are on page 25 and at the time I started it david was looking for a topic to get us to the number one spot it don't matter if you don't look at a pigeon's eye it got the site going from that day so let's now enjoy the site    george

its all interesting stuff George some people just like to add a bit of humour to their beliefs ...I find it interesting but as I said on page 1 I keep an open mind on the subject but don't get too bogged down with it but its still a very interesting subject atb

eyesigns being going for 30 years at least that I know of, our 25 page topic has a long time to run yet..........

had a neighbour back in the 60s was into eyesign that's 55 years ago

rainbow wrote:

so we don't want to talk   about eyes we are on page 25 and at the time I started it david was looking for a topic to get us to the number one spot it don't matter if you don't look at a pigeon's eye it got the site going from that day so let's now enjoy the site    george

Spot on George

rainbow wrote:

had a neighbour  back in the 60s was into eyesign that's 55 years ago  

And the rest George if the truth be known

I think the top fanciers are defo into eye sign and that's why when you look at the breeders in the lofts they all have great eyes, that's not by accident, And they are so competitive as all top sports men are they wouldn't tell you any secrets in case you beat them.

A little story for you... similar to prove my point but nothing to do with pigeons. I play squash at a very competitive level (county standard), and I know 2 chaps 1 was a semi pro cricketer and played in the word cup for Scotland, the other was British rally champion and a pro rally driver, the 2 reached high standards in sport, the rally driver was top 10 in the world at one point in his career.

You have never seen such competitive people in your life they are animals on a squash court and would beat their own grannies to 0 if they could, they wil do anything to win and tell you nothing just in case your going to improve and get better. They are great chaps friends of mine and I like them both but when its in competition they are ruthless and I mean to the core, almost to the point its shocking and that's why they reached the top, its a trait I sadly lack although my friends say I am the most competitive person they know, but compared to them Im a mouse.

And that's why you can watch any videos/dvds from champions you like and you will never learn a thing, my mrs is a competitor too and one day while I was watching a DVD she said why are you wasting your time watching them you know they all say the same things over and over and its al crap, and you know what shes right they all sound the same, and its because they are all hiding the real truth and tell you nothing.

Rudderfett wrote:

I think the top fanciers are defo into eye sign and that's why when you look at the breeders in the lofts they all have great eyes, that's not by accident, And they are so competitive as all top sports men are they wouldn't tell you any secrets in case you beat them.

A little story for you... similar to prove my point but nothing to do with pigeons. I play squash at a very competitive level (county standard), and I know 2 chaps 1 was a semi pro cricketer and played in the word cup for Scotland, the other was British rally champion and a pro rally driver, the 2 reached high standards in sport, the rally driver was top 10 in the world at one point in his career.

You have never seen such competitive people in your life they are animals on a squash court and would beat their own grannies to 0 if they could, they wil do anything to win and tell you nothing just in case your going to improve and get better. They are great chaps friends of mine and I like them both but when its in competition they are ruthless and I mean to the core, almost to the point its shocking and that's why they reached the top, its a trait I sadly lack although my friends say I am the most competitive person they know, but compared to them Im a mouse.

And that's why you can watch any videos/dvds from champions you like and you will never learn a thing, my mrs is a competitor too and one day while I was watching a DVD she said why are you wasting your time watching them you know they all say the same things over and over and its al crap, and you know what shes right they all sound the same, and its because they are all hiding the real truth and tell you nothing.

Your spot on Martyn

rainbow wrote:

so we don't want to talk   about eyes we are on page 25 and at the time I started it david was looking for a topic to get us to the number one spot it don't matter if you don't look at a pigeon's eye it got the site going from that day so let's now enjoy the site    george

Oh so true George etc. Your last line above, say's it all for me. Some may say Eye sign men know nothing but the feet brigade I suspect I'm   know far less . For the newcomer's to our sport here who we must encourage to keep an open mind & just hope they all can make some sense out of it all, at days end.

Knackered wrote:

rainbow wrote:

so we don't want to talk   about eyes we are on page 25 and at the time I started it david was looking for a topic to get us to the number one spot it don't matter if you don't look at a pigeon's eye it got the site going from that day so let's now enjoy the site    george

Oh so true George etc. Your last line above, say's it all for me. Some may say Eye sign men know nothing but the feet brigade I suspect I'm   know far less . For the newcomer's to our sport here who we must encourage to keep an open mind & just hope they all can make some sense out of it all, at days end.

Your right there Knackered by eyesign started for me at the age of 8 and Im still learning

Well over 30 years and still trying but as you all know

I KNOW NOTHING

Rudderfett wrote:

I think the top fanciers are defo into eye sign and that's why when you look at the breeders in the lofts they all have great eyes, that's not by accident, And they are so competitive as all top sports men are they wouldn't tell you any secrets in case you beat them.

A little story for you... similar to prove my point but nothing to do with pigeons. I play squash at a very competitive level (county standard), and I know 2 chaps 1 was a semi pro cricketer and played in the word cup for Scotland, the other was British rally champion and a pro rally driver, the 2 reached high standards in sport, the rally driver was top 10 in the world at one point in his career.

You have never seen such competitive people in your life they are animals on a squash court and would beat their own grannies to 0 if they could, they wil do anything to win and tell you nothing just in case your going to improve and get better. They are great chaps friends of mine and I like them both but when its in competition they are ruthless and I mean to the core, almost to the point its shocking and that's why they reached the top, its a trait I sadly lack although my friends say I am the most competitive person they know, but compared to them Im a mouse.

And that's why you can watch any videos/dvds from champions you like and you will never learn a thing, my mrs is a competitor too and one day while I was watching a DVD she said why are you wasting your time watching them you know they all say the same things over and over and its al crap, and you know what shes right they all sound the same, and its because they are all hiding the real truth and tell you nothing.

Great little post Rudd Most I would say in our sport start off with their heads in the clouds etc. Most then soon learn the balancing trick "Family,work or other interests" & decide in their wisdom to come back to earth as they say, from my perspective. Pick any sport/hobby     or even marbles & few are chosen to reach the icon status.

I believe it is the fancier who makes it or breaks it. Eye sign is one of many routes to consistent results. Methods, feeding etc, all have there place. Some fanciers can fly very well with not so good birds. They are observant and utilise everything. Not one certain way at the expense of neglecting other aspects. JMO anyway.

what i'm trying to learn more about is the different colour of eyes not eye sign well just a little bit lol

halcanada wrote:

I believe it is the fancier who makes it or breaks it. Eye sign is one of many routes to consistent results. Methods, feeding etc, all have there place. Some fanciers can fly very well with not so good birds. They are observant and utilise everything. Not one certain way at the expense of neglecting other aspects. JMO anyway.

I have to agree 110%

Eyesign is just one of the many theory's which surrounds this great sport

and the different colour of eyes don

I know where your coming from but the best way to to sort that out is to look at pipa auctions and. See all the different types of eye then you can compare and make your own assumption George

Every one is different and every one has there own views but like I say

I know nothing

what i'm thinking more of is when you cross different families what colours should you not mix this with I like the nut brown eye is there any colour you should not pair to this

this is my favourite colour

rainbow wrote:

what i'm thinking more of is when you cross different  families what    colours should you not  mix   this with I like the nut brown eye is there any colour you should not pair to this

Not from my point of view George if the legs  (racing) have a top pedigree/performance attached there I would mate the above to just about anything. Even a Duck if it was a fast one .

you can't judge a pigeon by it's legs if you are handed a pigeon do you hand the bird back and say I can't tell any thing about a pigeon or I don't know what to look for it's one or the other so knackered tell me what you look for in a pigeon

George that is a nice eye but I would pair this pigeon with a good deep violet eyed pigeon

rainbow wrote:

you can't judge a pigeon by it's legs if you are handed a pigeon  do you hand the bird back and say I can't tell any thing about a pigeon or I don't know what to look for it's one or the other  so knackered  tell me what you look for in a pigeon

Truth be told George I first look at the eye never in the loft tho but always outside etc. Fully inclosed eye small pupil & a strong outer ring to the eye & the characteristic's of my local family of birds here. Mainly yellow type eyes for me & not many bull type eyes as such. Then they have to handle like silk & when on the perch look as if the have half a brain     to do what's required. All things tho must be in balance & I'm even prepared to give a pigeon a chance with what some people would call a weak back, if it's looking the part as like many things in this caper surprises keep cropping up, from my experience.

Now !!! if the has failed your test just send me to the sin bin & after pentance I will attempt to improve, If you guide me .

http://www.tourdesmaritimes.com/Eyesign/Eyesign101/Photos/Malcolm/Stan-Graham.jpg

this is the type of eye I mean when I say plenty of depth george

Don Webb wrote:

George that is a nice eye but I would pair this pigeon with a good deep violet eyed pigeon

Just thought I would do an Alfie here     etc & cheat . Nothing of any sense to say, sadly but just another one to my tally .

Don that eye will never be equalled mate.
Rainbow the eye you like is what I call chestnut and I usually associate it with racing and not breeding, Imo the only time it comes up as a breeder is when its all gold including the eye sign.