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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 07, 2022 1:09 pm

Yes David the van bels and thiss , (spelt wrong) done extremely well . Probably the best family of pigeons we have had barr one .

Yes misty we try different birds every year but now more selective. Gone of the days of just buying for the sake of it. We buy now off winning flyers birds that have won or bred winners if possible. That's what we love about it trying different ones .
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 07, 2022 6:16 pm

First time round I decided to get serious I went hunting brothers and sisters of the best of the day.

Was very fortunate in that I got some brothers of the top birds of the day by the back door, and some by paying the price.

Bred winners from day one, won YB averages first year, still have repllca.

Second time round I took a different approach.

I bought a batch of young grandchildren of champions all same breed think often a generation miss breeding winners.

Settled them raced them all and those that did well remained and became both racers and stock birds, odd pair that bred the best never raced again.

Same result won from day one.

Did introduce six well bred youngsters after a time just to introduce a bit of new blood but got rid of them after the first year they bred, think I paid only £30 each for the six.

If I was to start again it would be as the second time round.

The last season flew won several young bird races including Dunbar (only race at that time I had never won with young birds), first Thurso first Thurso race 2nd
Thurso second Thurso race, 3rd and 4th Lerwick all four entries on the day was sending six, two escaped at basketing, cannot remember the other old bird race results.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 07, 2022 10:47 pm

i think i`d like to have a go with young birds, i think this every year but never get round to it ........but i do think i`d like to, but its room as ive said before, i cant justify spending silly money on wood .

i`d hate to finish with pigeons without at least having a young bird season .
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 07, 2022 10:51 pm

Lifes short david so go for it .
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyThu Dec 08, 2022 7:46 am

I think barry and I are more motivated now than ever . We'll at least for the last 10 years or so due to our kids gone ect ect . It's hard working full time , being married with 3 kids and keeping pigeons . Now it's sort of much easier now . Always been motivated but things get in the way . Not as much now so obviously that's helps massively.
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyThu Dec 08, 2022 12:29 pm

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Lifes short david so go for it .

yes your right ray got to do it instead of putting it off ........but my problem at the moment is a yb section, and the cost of wood to build it, the price of wood is scandalous.

having said that when i went to b&q the other day i thought i`d just check the price of their 3x2 lengths of wood, before this cost of living / price increase they have always been £5.45 per length for as long as i can remember ........i checked expecting them to be a lot more, yet found they were £4.45 !!!! affraid

i checked the label of where they had come from and they were from germany ......something doesnt add up with this cost of living and price increase lie Suspect Suspect No No
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyThu Dec 08, 2022 1:36 pm

just got 2 nestboxs done with old bits of wood looks awful but ill health and age it will have to-do
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyThu Dec 08, 2022 1:46 pm

as long as they do their job george and are functional that's all that matters .....the pigeons arent bothered if they live in an old shed or a mansion as long as they are happy ..... cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyThu Dec 08, 2022 6:09 pm

David wrote:
as long as they do their job george and are functional that's all that matters .....the pigeons arent bothered if they live in an old shed or a mansion as long as they are happy ..... cheers cheers

Back that 100% David, my sentiments exactly.

Too many think it's the loft that flies.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyThu Dec 08, 2022 6:28 pm

Cheaper to buy a ready made one if possible. Get some good lofts with fanciers packing in ect . Goodluck
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyThu Dec 08, 2022 6:31 pm

your right David cocks were fighting over the 2 boxes as i was doing the 3rd one
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyThu Dec 08, 2022 11:17 pm

hopefully those boxes will breed some nice young birds and some winners george Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyFri Dec 09, 2022 6:24 am

i hope so as am selecting the pairings for first time and have more raced birds to-gather or at least one in the pair
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyFri Dec 09, 2022 9:56 am

i rarely choose my pairings, i let them choose their own or go with the same as previous years .....i do have a couple of new pairings this year which i`d like to put together as i want them .
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyFri Dec 09, 2022 10:02 am

i think you can go only so far with unraced birds David unless they have been successful in previous years
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyFri Dec 09, 2022 11:29 am

yes george, as the generations go further and further away from raced birds it must weaken any ability to do well .........maybe scratch
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the main problem David is when you gift or sell birds they give you no feed back
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyFri Dec 09, 2022 11:59 am

for the amount of birds ive given or sold over the last few years, ive got very little feedback to say ive sent hundreds out, dont get me wrong ive had feedback, but considering how many ive bred its no where near what i`d call a good response....i`d say on the whole people are ignorant.
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyFri Dec 09, 2022 12:06 pm

i give a chap here 10 ybs ask him to tell me what happen to them about a month ago heard nothing
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i give a chap here 10 ybs ask him to tell me what happen to them about a month ago heard nothing

Always had good feedback from gift birds, pays to choose who is involved.

Always looked on breeding etc; as cars and dealers.

You can have a beautiful looking car, lift the bonnet, 2 stroke engine dealer sells on looks.

A decent car low mileage and well maintained but overpriced.

A real beauty, but been abused and wrong fuel used and engine knackered
along with a few major knocks covered up.

And all the other possibilities between.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyMon Dec 12, 2022 11:25 am

I feel that to set one's target too high then you get more frustrated than setting it medium and exceeding it, or attaining it.

Take Lerwick, and wanting to top the Fed.

If you are in the sport for 60 years and there is only one Lerwick race a year only 60 fanciers can top the Fed in that time.

So the vast majority would never do so.

The same for any other target you set yourself.

Tis the ups and downs that create the sport it is.

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I feel that to set one's target too high then you get more frustrated than setting it medium and exceeding it, or attaining it.

Take Lerwick, and wanting to top the Fed.

If you are in the sport for 60 years and there is only one Lerwick race a year only 60 fanciers can top the Fed in that time.

So the vast majority would never do so.

The same for any other target you set yourself.

Tis the ups and downs that create the sport it is.

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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyTue Dec 13, 2022 9:34 pm

RPRA AGM BHW this week.

Same people ruling the roost from 45 years ago.

Sport in a diabolic state, not one reasonable proposal to either solve

the existing problems or looking for new ideas for the future.

Not a good prospect.

Blame fanciers for allowing it.

Wants a complete new outlook.


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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyTue Dec 13, 2022 10:00 pm

committee member here always like to read what he has to say, got to be honest he has been very good to me Ray Harris
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PostSubject: Re: Ambition in sport   Ambition in sport - Page 4 EmptyWed Dec 14, 2022 10:17 am

There are one or two very good members George but it is all the Old Brigade that put forward all the proposals and the others follow like sheep, that is why the sport stagnated from the 1960s never made one significant change that helped every member.

Was not the AGM though George October General Meeting.

You have to have seen and attended meetings to realise there are rules for some that others ignore.

You would not believe some.

If my suggestion in the early 1070s had been adopted, several times put in the RP and BHW, no one can serve on the Council for more than 4 years, also in the Hall Report's suggestions many years later matters would now be far better than they are.


Some have been on the Council for over 40 years and never grown up with age.


Spit their dummies out more often thana child.


Nothing changes APATHY.

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