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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:10 am | |
| oh, i dont know....its been around for years as long as i can remember. wonder why they are stopping supplying it ? ive heard of smoke bombs are these for lice ticks etc ? |
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DOVEScot In egg (newbie)
Posts : 18 Join date : 2009-07-22 Age : 67 Location : Glenrothes
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:15 am | |
| - DAVID wrote:
- oh, i dont know....its been around for years as long as i can remember. wonder why they are stopping supplying it ? ive heard of smoke bombs are these for lice ticks etc ?
I got three smoke bombs at Blackpool but have not used them yet, Carol sends a lot of Duramitex to people she keeps in touch with from the sites as they can't get it anymore |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Jul 23, 2009 12:17 am | |
| murray and mills in leeds always have it so if they are stopping it ill get a few bottles to keep incase. have heard some use a blow tourch on the loft every so often for desease etc.... |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:51 pm | |
| yes i use burner to flash over boxes after breeding |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:19 pm | |
| do you use it on fllor at the same time ian ? read some do it every few weeks..... |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Jul 23, 2009 8:24 pm | |
| yes but only do it about twice a year |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:01 pm | |
| Will agree with you ian with the use of a burner |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:04 pm | |
| never used one myself yet, usually would use duramitex and jeys fluid.... |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Fri Jul 24, 2009 11:25 pm | |
| Yes jeys fluid is good also just use a little water with it |
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littlehen Hatchling
Posts : 558 Join date : 2009-04-22
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:37 pm | |
| yes don,use jays fluid myself and always happy with it.duramitex has also stood the test of time too. |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Tue Aug 04, 2009 7:47 pm | |
| i sray my loft with vanodine its like a disinfectant you can put this in the drinker also good stuff Vanodine V.18 is an Iodophor, specially formulated and stabilized for use with all types of livestock, domestic pets and in aviaries.. Vanodine V.18 should be regarded as a biocide, rather than a disinfectant. This is because a biocide inactivates ALL types of organisms, viruses, bacteria and even fungi, whereas most disinfectants do not do this, as they are "selective" in what they kill.
Very few, for example, are effective against the polio virus, the tuberculosis bacterium, or many of the antibiotic resistant organisms which have resulted from extensive bacteria and viruses. It will also kill fungi, without having to be used at a dangerously strong dilution rate, as is the case with the few corrosive types of disinfectant that are effective against fungi. Another major benefit is that V.18 can be used to keep down bacteria in the presence of livestock.
As more and more intensive methods of animal husbandry are practiced, the risks of keeping livestock increase and it is in these crowded environments that new methods of disinfection are necessary to help prevent the spread of infection.
Infection can be spread from a diseased animal to a healthy one in a vast number of ways. Direct contact is the most obvious, but by no means the most common method of transmission. Human beings can convey infective material on their boots, hands and clothing. It can also come in on the feet of animals, on equipment, food containers and on the wheels of vehicles.
With so many possible sources of disease, it is imperative that a strict code of hygiene is implemented, but even where all the basic principles of hygiene are practiced, bacteria populations will build up while livestock are in housing. In order to keep mortality rates to a minimum, it is therefore essential that this build up of bacteria be kept as low as possible and this is where V.18 can be a great help.
Vanodine V.18 can be used to kill bacteria, viruses and fungi - which cause the following diseases:
Arthritis, Aspergillosis, Chronic Respiratory Disease, Epidemic Tremor, Erysipelas, Favus, Fowl Cholera, Fowl Pox, Fowl Typhoid, Infectious Bronchitis, Infectious Laryngotracheitis, Infectious Sinusitis, Infectious Synovitis, Mycosis and Newcastle Disease.
Vanodine V.18 is also most useful to breeders of Rabbits, Cavies, Chinchillas, Mice etc., as it helps to prevent respiratory diseases, (including "Snuffles") Salmonellosis and many forms of Enteritis.
Bird Breeders suffer from "dead in shell" and "mushy chick", where the youngsters fail to break out their shells. Washing eggs in a V.18 solution destroys the Staphylococci which causes "mushy chick". Vanodine V.18 has also been proved useful in controlling the spread of Salmonellosis, Paratyphoid and respiratory diseases among birds.
The following list is not comprehensive, but shows some of the organisms against which V.18 has been tested. In every case the kill was extremely fast, many times faster than either carbolic or quaternary compounds:
Salmonella typhimurium
Staphylococcus aureus
Streptococcus pyogenes
Streptococcus agalactae
Escherichia coli
Salmonella cholera-suis
Pseudomonas aeruginosa
Shigella sonnei
Candida albicans
Aspergillus
Microsporum gypseum
Epidermophyton floccosum
Trichophyton rubrum |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Wed Aug 05, 2009 12:56 am | |
| Ian that info is fantastic am you taking over from malcolm |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:49 pm | |
| cheers don but down to computers |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:20 pm | |
| good info ian, its good to get to know about these things from other fanciers....because its something id not used and as far as i know id not heard about the product(im not sure) |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Wed Aug 05, 2009 8:26 pm | |
| i myself was told about this about 3 years ago great product |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:33 pm | |
| think this just goes to show ian that we need to use products like this every now and then to keep deseas at bay and help keep them healthy. |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Aug 06, 2009 5:56 pm | |
| yes david your right do the best you can to keep birds healthy |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:02 pm | |
| for when im racing i want to find some decent vitamins to use or try the orego stim which kev uses....at the moment i am only using garlic, honeygar and johnsons tonic which none of them have vitamins which they need in them (i think) |
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IANYOUNG Oldbird
Posts : 11428 Join date : 2009-03-30 Age : 61 Location : south shields
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:26 pm | |
| i just use glucose david its as good asanything only my opinion tho |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Thu Aug 06, 2009 7:42 pm | |
| yes used glucose in the past, and also electrolytes in water when they return from race. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:53 pm | |
| Computers do have some good with getting top information |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:53 pm | |
| As i have said Ian spot on |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43897 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Fri Aug 07, 2009 11:34 pm | |
| if it wasnt for computers i wouldnt have a clue as to the methods used nowadays......other locals wouldnt tell me. |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:02 am | |
| That is what gets on my nerves as lot of fanciers play there cards close to there chest |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14930 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: deep litter or bare floors Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:04 am | |
| For me if the information helps anyone to win a race then for me i am over the moon for them |
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