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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 56 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: brewers yeast Sun Jan 08, 2017 3:17 pm | |
| do any members use it. we are going to use it this year for the first time. how much days can we use it . in the breeding loft. and the best way to mix it |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:05 pm | |
| most use it in powder form on the corn just moisten corn first ...when I used it I would give twice per week I have known fanciers give them to weary pigeons in tablet form ...I would buy some from a health shop in powder form much cheaper than one with a pigeon on ....if I remember correctly it was a tablespoon to a kilo of corn ,their are other things to use to get those b-vitamins if you don't fancy using the yeast powder then try zell oxygen its very similar in liquid form at a rate of 1 table spoon per kilo of grain also very good for racers I use it twice per week this can also be obtained from the health shop atb |
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 56 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:14 pm | |
| thanks Darren we have just bought 1kl of the powder so will give it a go this year, thanks for getting back. and we will get that other stuff as well . |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 70 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Sun Jan 08, 2017 4:42 pm | |
| I use it just once a week - in the afternoon on their corn.
I have a big 850g tub of the stuff made by Natural - but as Darren said, you can get it cheaper in the high street - except in frogland of course. You can get bugger all here, and if you can find what you want it is always 50% more expensive than what you think it should be. - End of my rant!
Mine says to use at 2 tea spoons to 500g of corn. I wet the corn with lemon juice sometimes, but mostly I use rape seed oil - bought from the super market at maybe a quid per litre. You only need a very little rape oil, mix that into the corn, then add the yeast and mix again.
The added advantage of using rape seed oil, is that it is excellent for the birds plumage especially leading up to and during the moult. I use rape seed oil all year round and my birds are always lovely and silky.
All the very best with your endeavours.
Phil
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stormqueen Youngbird
Posts : 2512 Join date : 2009-03-28 Age : 56 Location : INVERALLOCHY ABERDEENSHIRE
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Sun Jan 08, 2017 8:03 pm | |
| phil thanks for info .can only try it . all the best for 2017. and that goes for all members. JOHN |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Sun Jan 08, 2017 9:58 pm | |
| - stormqueen wrote:
- phil thanks for info .can only try it . all the best for 2017. and that goes for all members. JOHN
Never really used it on my patch etc, but it has stood the test of time from my perspective & so well worth the effort/punt I suspect John. Cheers. |
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Boosey Youngbird
Posts : 2064 Join date : 2013-08-09 Age : 53 Location : Basildon, Essex
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Sun Jan 08, 2017 10:30 pm | |
| If I remember rightly as a kid it was one of the only supplements my dad used, when I asked him why he used it, he said it had something in it that pigeons don't get in their food, which is Riboflavin. |
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cowandchicken Hatchling
Posts : 255 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:48 am | |
| I have never used it on the basis that it is a yeast and canker feeds off yeast. I don't canker my birds anymore and have never had any problems. whether this has any relevance I don't know but brewers yeast is a popular supplement that a lot of people use. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:10 am | |
| - cowandchicken wrote:
- I have never used it on the basis that it is a yeast and canker feeds off yeast. I don't canker my birds anymore and have never had any problems. whether this has any relevance I don't know but brewers yeast is a popular supplement that a lot of people use.
No expert C C & I could be wrong etc but I thought it is what was termed a dead yeast as such & I would suggest canker may have no relevance with it's use. B - 12 for some reason also comes to mind. Cheers. |
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cowandchicken Hatchling
Posts : 255 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:36 am | |
| Hi Knackered, just did a quick Google on it and as normal one study say one thing and another says another but your right about it being a dead yeast. I am no scientist and may have put 2 and 2 together and come up with 5. As I said it is a popular supplement but not one I choose to use. Another thing I don't use is multi vits as I believe they cause sugar build up and yeast feeds off sugar. This is only my opinion and I have no real science to back it up but it make me happy in my little world. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Mon Jan 09, 2017 10:54 am | |
| - cowandchicken wrote:
- I have never used it on the basis that it is a yeast and canker feeds off yeast. I don't canker my birds anymore and have never had any problems. whether this has any relevance I don't know but brewers yeast is a popular supplement that a lot of people use.
C C. No scientist here either unfortunately. My expertise "laugh, laugh laugh" was to do with more of a human nature as such. Cheers. |
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blueskylofts Youngbird
Posts : 1756 Join date : 2016-02-28 Age : 70 Location : Glos - South West England
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:00 pm | |
| Cowandchicken - can you please explain why you think Multi vitamins would cause a build up of sugars? And what type of sugar are you referring to.
I am not a scientist either but I do have a Degree in Anatomy and Physiology and studied body science for a couple of years.
In my limited experience I do not remember multi vitamins being any type of sugar.
There are many types of sugars - fructose, glucose, sucrose, to name a few - and to be honest with you I can't see how you are getting vitamins mixed up with sugars.
Maybe I have missed something in my studies, and I am always willing to learn, so over to you.
Phil |
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cowandchicken Hatchling
Posts : 255 Join date : 2012-03-16
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:27 pm | |
| Hi Phil, I have no science on the subject just dvds and word of mouth from the old timers and just my opinion. |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16429 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Mon Jan 09, 2017 1:51 pm | |
| its the carrier agent that you need to watch not the vitamins themselves...e-coli will feed off sugars etc... |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14517 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: brewers yeast Mon Jan 09, 2017 9:26 pm | |
| - oldstrain wrote:
- its the carrier agent that you need to watch not the vitamins themselves...e-coli will feed off sugars etc...
Brings to mind a test done here on many of the Oregano supplements etc O/S. Failed the pub test in a big way sadly & so one always needs to be wary of the fine print as such. Cheers |
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