Ambition in sport

personally i would always pair best to best , whatever birds have performed best paired together surely must be the way to go ......

as i don't race David i think a little different

David wrote:

personally i would always pair best to best , whatever birds have performed best paired together surely must be the way to go ......

Oh if it was only that easy David.

Some of the best ever pigeons have been the result of two left overs after all had been seletively paired.

I got the brothers of the Champions and hens which had performed the latter few and far between and only realy obtained from complete clearance sales.

Lady luck plays a major part, then good husbandry.

Many top pigeons are as a result of Lady Luck.

Good job it is not predictanble, or where would be the fun.

Regards.

Every species have individuals of differeing capabilities or they would not survive
the changes and problems they will encounter weather, food, water, illness etc; etc;

Our feathered friends are no different.

There will be those capable of flying further for food in bad times, and those

capable of flying faster.

The former will live and those not capable of doing so will die.

If food is short the fast ones will eat all the food and the slow ones die.


However, the survivors will carry all genes that cover all those lost and breed until they overall return to normal.

The same applies to our pigeons.

All you have to do is pick the ones carrying the genes that you want and reiforce them.


Cannot see a problem ????????????????????????????????????????????.


Regards.

yes misty i agree, i too , like george do not race, so i would imagine the only way to decide pairings would be on performance, pedigree and handling ....maybe the eye.

maybe even how the parents had raced too .

one reason i now only take in birds that have raced need more cocks next year

George & Morgan wrote:

one reason i now only take in birds that have raced need more cocks next year

Think it unwise to take pigeons in every year, you intake the good bad and indifferent, in health, ability and breeding potential.

One pigeon could cause untold disruption in a loft, and put it back years.

Once flock treatment becomes necessary you can forget good health in any loft, the only way then is constant treatment to deal with continual problems.

Before you fill a barrel of apples you make sure not one is bad.

Regards.

Just had a look at the Bird Flue situation.

Several outbreaks too near us for comfort.

Daughter lives in Pickering, 20 minutes run, outbreak there.

Just hope and pray it does not come here and affect the numerous wild birds on both the Meer and Peasholme Park, would be a disaster.

: Hope the situation improves before training starts, always something today to kick us where it hurts.

Regards.

does anyone not think this bird flu is over exaggerated ...........are they not making more of it than it really is ?

got to be honest David i have taken no notice of it

i reckon there is some motive behind it, a reason to make all pigeon fanciers register and be licensed to keep pigeons, which will require fanciers to pay an annual license fee and register with a vet........or even to be forced to vaccinate all pigeons whether racers, stock , flying out or not flying out etc.

we already know defra do not like the pigeon fancier .

chap back of me had a poultry unit he has now moved the chickens into his garden could this be the reason

George & Morgan wrote:

chap back of me had a poultry unit he has now moved the chickens into his garden could this be the reason

Think it likely Georgs that he can keep a better eye on them.

Less chance of contacting any carriers of the problem.

The losses of millions of wild birds, throughout the world indicates it an't no laughing matter but think the RSPBB and their like will take advantage to protect raptors to the detriment of our sport.

Just wants the JOKE idiots to become involved and nothing other than abnormality will be allowed.

Regards.

Article in BHW this week. Mark Karges.

How anyone with lofts and advantages this bloke has can claim fame is beyond me.

Like to see winning against the odds not with outstanding advantage.

This is what started killing our sport in this country.

Regards.

thought i had read it all will go back and see the article

now i know why i missed it too many pages    i do like the eye of the bird on page 24

George & Morgan wrote:

now i know why i missed it too many pages    i do like the eye of the bird on page 24

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Looks a nice eye George, just had a look, but you need a light on the eye to see how far the pupil dilutes, the muscle round the pupil and depth of the eye as a whole.

Problem with eye sign, too many champions would have been culled if that was the means used to access a pigeon's capabilities.

All you have to do is look at some of the champions eyes.

There are breeds that nearly every pigeon has what is called good eye sign the good, the bad and the useless.

Regards.

what i like to see is a nice circle round the pupil however this cock from the hen with a bad vent has no circle but really do like him

all different george, there are eyes with a clear edge to the circle and some that arnt ......im no expert but id guess that eye is more of a racing eye .

and good racers can sometimes breed good racers too .......

had him paired to a old hen for years this year he has a new hen not sure what hen he will choose

if i had a choice to pair my own birds, i think i would go for opposite types of eyes, such as the yellow eye to a pearl eye ....no idea if it would breed a yb any good but thats the excitement of pigeon breeding / racing eh ....only time would tell by racing the offspring .

will post the hen and eye

George & Morgan wrote:

what i like to see is a nice circle round the pupil however this cock from the hen with a bad vent has no circle but really do like him

It does have a circle George.

Yellow, starts at the pupil and ends when it goes raggedly into the rest of the eye,
in not a bad eye.

Regards.

As I have said previously, you need a bright light on the eye to reduce the size of the pupil.

When flying the pigeon's pupils reduce and enlarge according to the light.

Regards.