Ambition in sport

it may turn out much better this year george ,i really hope so,we live in hope and i can understand people entering but once bitten and all that jazz eh ...good luck though you never know eh

was bitten twice the MNFC and Somerset olr

i honestly think they are all the same george

i'm sure some cut down on the corn bill  and there is a quick way

George & Morgan wrote:

i'm sure some cut down on the corn bill  and there is a quick way

There are far too many losses unexplained.

Tis obvious having so many pigeons from different lofts, those entered will have varying health problems.

The healthy could be made ill and the ill made better by flock treatment etc;

I feel that the RPRA OL is far too overcrowded for both the health and the over all welfare of the pigeons and the management.

No one can keep that many pigeons healthy, they can only flock treat to the benifit of some and detriment of others.


The training is beyond belief and could be one of the root causes of losses.

Think a real down to earth assessment is needed.


Regards.

George & Morgan wrote:

i'm sure some cut down on the corn bill  and there is a quick way

There are far too many losses unexplained.

Tis obvious having so many pigeons from different lofts, those entered will have varying health problems.

The healthy could be made ill and the ill made better by flock treatment etc;

I feel that the RPRA OL is far too overcrowded for both the health and the over all welfare of the pigeons and the management.

No one can keep that many pigeons healthy, they can only flock treat to the benifit of some  and detriment of others.


The training is beyond belief and could be one of the root causes of losses.

Think a real down to earth assessment is needed.


Regards.

disaster for the birds is the assessment ,but it will carry on as its all about the MONEY

oldstrain wrote:

disaster for the birds is the assessment ,but it will carry on as its all about the MONEY

I think several RPRA members should be picked to make periodic inspections (unannounced) of the whole set up, basketing, medication etc; etc;.

Regards.

not only the rpra all olr should have unannounced  visits

would the cost be high to chip each bird that way you could keep track of every bird  any that dies must be reported to a vet

George & Morgan wrote:

would the cost be high to chip each bird that way you could keep track of every bird  any that dies must be reported to a vet

I think every fancier is entitled to know what happens to his/her pigeons in OL races.

Many migrating birds are chipped, as are some racing pigeons, easy to track.

Cost wise to chip all OL birds I know not, but would be worth it as a one off just to see exactly what happens to the often 70 or 80% of entries.

Think the problem is money rather than sport rules the day.

But the RPRA OL has obvious short comings regarding training etc; and no one knows what goes down their throats.

If they use flock treatment it will benefit the ill but be detrimental to the fit.

Too many different scenarios involved for my liking.

But as stated, a fancier is entitled to know the time his/her pigeon was no longer involved and why.

Regards.

what i will be checking this time is the ring numbers as well as our name

George & Morgan wrote:

what i will be checking this time is the ring numbers as well as our name

What is going to happen George if the Flue problem affects a lot of those who have entered the OL races, if in control areas they will not be able to enter, nor will the OL loft be able to function under the same circumstances.


Tis a real mess for fanciers all way round.

Thing is cannot see matters improving.

Just live in hope.

Regards..

they should no more in February /March time

[quote="George & Morgan"]they should no more in February /March time[/quot

Found time flies George, does not seem two minutes since we were worried about seeing Christmas 2021 and Christmas 2022 just gone.

Lets just hope there are no more problems.

Regards,

i think the rpra one loft has quite a lot of birds die etc due to health problems, plus they will have quite a lot of losses off the loft roof and training, this is why nearly half are already gone before the first hot spot race.

avain flu has not or does not account for any losses as there hasnt ever been a case recorded of a racing pigeon catching it .

i'm giving it one more try it's a case of picking the right 2 birds

George & Morgan wrote:

i'm giving it one more try it's a case of picking the right 2 birds

Have you not had any feedback from youngsters you bred previously.

If you breed a number at the same time and all parents are off winners I would pick the two best handling cocks, not easy when so young though, but you can tell
the ones you do not like.

Regards.

only one and he lost them first toss then one appeared in a olr under a different name  when i asked for details it was taken down    this year the fancier will let me  have the ring numbers when he pairs up

George & Morgan wrote:

only one and he lost them first toss then one appeared in a olr under a different name  when i asked for details it was taken down    this year the fancier will let me  have the ring numbers when he pairs up

At least George you will be able to follow yours in the RPRA OL which is something to look forward to, so will we.

Roll on hatching and seeing what we get.

Regards.

MISTY wrote:

George & Morgan wrote:

only one and he lost them first toss then one appeared in a olr under a different name  when i asked for details it was taken down    this year the fancier will let me  have the ring numbers when he pairs up

At least George you will be able to follow yours in the RPRA OL which is something to look forward to, so will we.

Roll on hatching and seeing what we get.

Regards.

Come on George need your input, photos etc.


Regards.




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George & Morgan wrote:

would the cost be high to chip each bird that way you could keep track of every bird  any that dies must be reported to a vet

your dreaming George I'm   expecting that type of thing to ever happen etc Just breed the best you can I say & then maybe pray as hard as you can. That they both somehow will be there at the finish type of thing, hopefully .

MISTY wrote:

MISTY wrote:

George & Morgan wrote:

only one and he lost them first toss then one appeared in a olr under a different name  when i asked for details it was taken down    this year the fancier will let me  have the ring numbers when he pairs up

At least George you will be able to follow yours in the RPRA OL which is something to look forward to, so will we.

Roll on hatching and seeing what we get.

Regards.

Come on George need your input, photos etc.


Regards.




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Agree whole heart ably Misty Adoption papers ready to go down here when George finely decides somehow on his next two future champs there etc with his next O/L/R type venture as such.

Will certainly be something to look forward to Knackered after all the present problems.

They get worse every day.

Harry is proving to be a drug addict and off his rocker according to the interviews on television, we need some good news before long or we will all be off our rockers.

Just hope that Blackpool goes well and racing is not affected by the flue problem.

As for ambition in our sport just hope things improve before too many fanciers get peed off.

Regards..

yes it came out years ago harry was partial to a smoke of cannabis .........it hinkit was around the time he dressed up in a nazi uniform for some party he went to ....