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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14499 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:50 pm | |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14499 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:06 pm | |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14499 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 16, 2014 2:28 am | |
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killer Hatchling
Posts : 535 Join date : 2012-11-09 Location : Wollongog Australia
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:59 am | |
| A mr Jones was the Loft man way back then for the King & suggested to Mr Max Foy the Harrison were the best there at that time so he Imported the lot of them 1911 for memory ?; in 1900 Edward the V11 came out Watched my Grandfather & his 3 Brothers at wood Chopping on the Domain in Hobart ;he later sent out birds to South Australia being Delmott & Jurion {Known has the Royals};A Mr Sam Hordern in 1885 imported birds Direct for N Barker a Pom living & Racing in Belgum He also imported birds from J W Logan the JP & Founding father of the English pigeon has we know them; plenty of good birds that came out ;Importations stopped between around 1948 & 1989 ;you name it & its Here ;alot of rich people has spent Fortunes on importing birds ;but if it gets tough the Older Blood shines through;The newer Blood is Faster for sure & has won at the distance has well . cheers |
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edgie Youngbird
Posts : 2398 Join date : 2013-01-21
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:43 am | |
| thanks for that lads, in short the old blood is still coming through, both in oz and uk and i have no dought all over the world, as for buying birds from belgium and holland, they are in my view decendents of what the british sent over after the war, as the germans and others had eaten them all ? |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 16, 2014 4:48 pm | |
| Not sure if there are many of the older strains left in Canada. Always seems to be some 'flavour' of the month. Most of mine are Jansen from a friend out west. Reds and mealy's. Oude Vos from Jules Gallez originally. Have checks and blues from Van loons plus other oddballs. I have no complaints. Birds are better than the management!!!! |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14499 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 16, 2014 11:01 pm | |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Mon Mar 17, 2014 7:47 pm | |
| No not me!!! The birds came from Tom Makowaki in Alberta when I restarted. He and Karl Franks host the Alberta Classic discussion site. I sent 5 yearlings to a 750 miler few years back. They had flown east before. This was from the N west. Hit bad weather. Got 4 home but not in race time. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14499 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Mon Mar 17, 2014 9:47 pm | |
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oldstrain Oldbird
Posts : 16306 Join date : 2011-01-03 Location : the magic roundabout
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Mon Mar 17, 2014 10:44 pm | |
| tom makowski had the red fox janssens ....yeah oz seemed a bit of a hippy type fella decent enough guy though and very knowledgeable |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14499 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Tue Mar 18, 2014 4:03 am | |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:30 pm | |
| Hippy type? Had a hip replacement year ago. Not sure about that, hippy, but was not in Canada back then. Think I was back in west Hartlepool between ships. He retired year or two ago. Was a sheep farmer. What can I say? He never treated me wrong. Bought birds off him he would always put in extras. Very generous person. Belgian banded bird UK banded bird etc,. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14499 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:14 pm | |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:22 pm | |
| Yes! Understand now, Aussie. Hey how did those rabbits we sent you years back for meat work out? everybody eating them? Or did myxamotisis knock them all of? never heard. |
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Knackered Oldbird
Posts : 14499 Join date : 2013-03-11
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Thu Mar 20, 2014 4:09 am | |
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killer Hatchling
Posts : 535 Join date : 2012-11-09 Location : Wollongog Australia
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Thu Mar 20, 2014 8:34 am | |
| You can Have Those Foxes Back Has well ?lol |
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halcanada Youngbird
Posts : 4206 Join date : 2014-03-11 Age : 84 Location : Southern Ontario. Canada.
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Tue Jul 01, 2014 11:38 pm | |
| Old strains. Tom's Oude red Jansen family (crossed of course) is doing well. Last week 170 lofts, 1191 mpm, 161 km. won it and seven in first ten. Week before, 166 lofts, 865 mpm 579 km. 1st and 2nd. |
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amberleaf Chipping
Posts : 32 Join date : 2015-03-11 Age : 83 Location : monkayo phillipines
| Subject: long distance Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:32 am | |
| I use to race jim biss birds over long distance 500 to 600 miles they were very reliable birds but could never beat jim himself with them he would get maybe 5 birds home on the day from 600 miles I had to wait till the next morning to get mine but I was happy with that.my sprint birds originated from wild town pigeons with no rings I bread from them and the performed very well winning quite a few firsts as young birds I was only 12 then so did not have money to buy birds. |
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amberleaf Chipping
Posts : 32 Join date : 2015-03-11 Age : 83 Location : monkayo phillipines
| Subject: my theory on birds homing Sun Mar 15, 2015 2:20 am | |
| I think a bird navigates its way on with a natural built in compass but when it gets within 150 miles of its loft it uses landmarks to navigate so the birds I raced across the channel I used to train to dover one way and penzance the other way.because depending on the wind direction and strength on the day of the the race you did not no where they were going to hit the English coast.my theory for what its worth training my way wherever they hit the coast they would no where they were and get home faster. |
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devo56 Youngbird
Posts : 1257 Join date : 2015-02-22
| Subject: good point Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:34 am | |
| Good point Aberleaf, i think racing pigeons should be trained, to a breakaway point. Again i feel this is another form of Motivation, what can only help the pigeon on its return. The lines i would look at for the distance are, Jellema and Wijnands. |
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David Oldbird
Posts : 43193 Join date : 2009-03-18 Location : Leeds
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 15, 2015 1:16 pm | |
| - amberleaf wrote:
- I use to race jim biss birds over long distance 500 to 600 miles they were very reliable birds but could never beat jim himself with them he would get maybe 5 birds home on the day from 600 miles I had to wait till the next morning to get mine but I was happy with that.my sprint birds originated from wild town pigeons with no rings I bread from them and the performed very well winning quite a few firsts as young birds I was only 12 then so did not have money to buy birds.
very interesting amberleaf.............. |
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markevans Youngbird
Posts : 3310 Join date : 2015-01-25 Age : 58 Location : Wolverhampton
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 15, 2015 8:52 pm | |
| ive had the dale newcombe birds out to tarbes 649mis on the winning day but they are abit slow trying some brokhamp birds this year fingers crost |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:17 pm | |
| - amberleaf wrote:
- I think a bird navigates its way on with a natural built in compass but when it gets within 150 miles of its loft it uses landmarks to navigate so the birds I raced across the channel I used to train to dover one way and penzance the other way.because depending on the wind direction and strength on the day of the the race you did not no where they were going to hit the English coast.my theory for what its worth training my way wherever they hit the coast they would no where they were and get home faster.
That's interesting but for me I would have to say you need to train your birds 360* of the compass plus not in all sunny days on hard testing days which get the best out of your pigeons and show there true characteristics It's a lonely life for a long distance pigeon and if you want to win they have to be able to race on there own and not follow the leader JMO |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:24 pm | |
| - amberleaf wrote:
- I think a bird navigates its way on with a natural built in compass but when it gets within 150 miles of its loft it uses landmarks to navigate so the birds I raced across the channel I used to train to dover one way and penzance the other way.because depending on the wind direction and strength on the day of the the race you did not no where they were going to hit the English coast.my theory for what its worth training my way wherever they hit the coast they would no where they were and get home faster.
Amberleaf here one for you Bobby Walton of Oldbury top fancier alway been a top national fancier when he was training his national candidates the word was he would take his pigeons to the coast (Southampton) give a fishing trawler his birds to take out to the centre of the channel and liberate each pigeon on there own 30 mins intervals and Bob had some fantastic results national racing with only a few pigeons |
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Don Webb Oldbird
Posts : 14926 Join date : 2009-03-27 Age : 51 Location : Tipton
| Subject: Re: what strain of pigeons do you have for long distance racing 600 to 730 miles Sun Mar 15, 2015 11:34 pm | |
| Amberleaf how about getting a good team of hens which have proved themselfs at the distance but you have never breed from them wait till they are 3 years old with there first ever youngster remove the cock for a week so when the hens are shipped to the required race they have been doing all the work with the youngsters and it's up to them to get back to the youngster to feed them |
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