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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptyThu Jan 14, 2010 11:33 pm

yes we all are don
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 6:50 pm

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Fred does this mean that i am your apprentise now Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

your very welcome to be my apprentice, your first job will be in early March, letting the widowers out between 6 and seven in the morning, cleaning out, just before I get up - Oh yes and I like a nice rich tea biscuit with my cuppa Laughing Laughing Laughing
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lol! lol!
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Fred does this mean that i am your apprentise now Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

your very welcome to be my apprentice, your first job will be in early March, letting the widowers out between 6 and seven in the morning, cleaning out, just before I get up - Oh yes and I like a nice rich tea biscuit with my cuppa Laughing Laughing Laughing


lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 9:31 pm

hi fred, im hopeing to breed approx 26 - 30 ybs but as ive only 9 pairs pairs this will have to be done as they come and not in one round........what is the latest date for a yb to be hatched so that it will have enough time on the dark to be moulted enough to race in the yb program.....?
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 9:34 pm

two rounds with no mishaps will be 36 youngsters, you'll have plenty of time
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 9:42 pm

fred i have four pairs of stock birds i will be breeding four ybs off each pair (would liked to have bred six off each pair really) then i have five pairs or one and two year olds i will only be breeding two ybs each pair........so that should give me 26 ybs all being well,

if i let them all rear their own when they lay i will have 18 first round and then a second round off the four stock pair......will the eight second round sock ybs be on the dark long enough before its time to take the ybs off the dark before racing.....?
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 9:52 pm

David, that took me a while to get my head round - must be the after effects of Blackpool, you will have to do the math yourself, but you only need to have them on it for 8-10 weeks, some have said 6 weeks, if you take them off the dark on the longest day, you can work it back from there.

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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 9:57 pm

hi i put my youngbirds on dark for 11 weeks i take them off the longest day orbourges race however some of the later youngens dont get as long and you can see the difference by the end of the racing season , starting to heavily moult , on the the last 4 -5 flights whereas the ones thats been on longer have eight and nine
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 10:25 pm

Sorted Fred cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptySun Jan 17, 2010 10:26 pm

Fred will i have to take the pigeons training also after leaving you your cup of tea
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Don, I think you'll be getting up early enough as it is Laughing Laughing Laughing
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fred give him plenty of cleaning out thats what aprentices are for lol! lol! lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 8:50 pm

ian, do you clean out every day ....? do you use any bedding in your stock loft.....? i going to put this horse bedding down in stock shed when my backs stopped giving me jip...... rendeer
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 8:58 pm

david clean boxes everyday floors have horse bedding down in stock and widowhood but i take it out of widowhood loft when the racing starts just have bare floor
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptyMon Jan 18, 2010 9:01 pm

what do you do with the horse bedding ian, do you move it around or throw out where droppings are piled up.....? do you top up......?
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Fred am prepaired to go training very early at 4am if that's o.k
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptyWed Jan 20, 2010 12:57 pm

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what do you do with the horse bedding ian, do you move it around or throw out where droppings are piled up.....? do you top up......?
daid just move it around with a grass rake take out heavy clumps of droppings
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right, ok thanks ian......will do. Very Happy

havnt got it in yet every time i plan to take the straw out and replace with horse bedding something else crops up...... No lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Fred Holbard..........   Fred Holbard.......... - Page 4 EmptyThu Jan 21, 2010 12:19 am

Come on david the season will be upon you before you know it
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Embarassed season will be over by the time i get ready don, been doing my loft etc for the past two years and still no further on...... geek drunken
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come on david no excuses get your finger out Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
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